I'm posting in the Ultimate Facebook forum because its the only plugin I see that is a full replacement for WP's default "register" and "login" functionality.
My question is: How can I "turn off" WP's login so that the ONLY way you can login is with another login tool, like Ultimate Facebook or another plugin like BrowserID ( http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/browserid/ ) or any one or more options?
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Goodday @Clifford
One that I've used in the past - and it seems to offer the widest array of social connections - is Gigya Social Identity Management I used the Social Login WP Plugin. Of course, that page is just the information on it - the WordPress plugin is located at Gigya Socialize for WordPress.
Also, to "hide" the wp-login information, I use Ozh' Simpler Login Plugin so that you can use domain.com/login instead of domain.com/wp-login to have your users login to the website.
Hope that is helpful information to you. If not, post back. I'd have to pull out my virtual notebook though and do some research on other options if there are any. But, basically, I'd think you'd want to use OAuth as that's what most websites seem to be using today.
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Goodday @masonjames and @Clifford
I just stumbled upon something interesting - and it looks really new. It's only had 307 downloads and the last mod date was 7-17-2012, but it's good for WP3.4.1.
It's WP FLogin - a plugin that allows you to make a custom login page and avoid using the WP standard one altogether. Or, you can stick the standard login box into your theme anywhere you want it. I think it just might work better than my original suggestion. And, I would test it to see if it worked with Ozh's plugin so you can give out a /login address, too.
If you try it - or my original suggestion - or Mason's suggestion - be sure to post back and tell us what works and what doesn't for your application. Looking forward to your feedback. This plugin just might make my virtual notebook of very interesting plugins. It's already ranking to get there.
The other 2 plugins are good for changing where the user goes to login, but I didn't see mention/snippet of how to completely disable the wp-login.php. I want to FORCE all logins to be Gigya or Ultimate FB or whatever else I permit. And if I deactivate the Ultimate FB plugin, I guess no one can login, not even me... lol, but that's what I want (or at least want to know how to do). :-)
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Hey @Clifford
I've been using Gigya for 3, maybe 4 years, and I've never paid a dime for it. I don't think I got that special because I was a BETA tester. I think that's just how the deal is when using the WP Plugin. I could be wrong, but as I said, I've never paid a dime.
Thanks @JamesDunn. I didn't see any free pricing on their website so I sent them a message asking about pricing. Thanks for the info. :-)
So, with or without Gigya, does anyone know of a snippet or something to disable WordPress logins? If not, I may try hacking it myself, but I was curious.
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Good day @Clifford
Did you try the WordPress plugin to see what it said when you install? I'd at least give it a shot. Like I said, I've been using it for several years and have never paid a dime.
I'll see if I can install it on a new website in the next few days and see if I get any payment notices.
Once I do that, I'll report back with my findings.
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Hey @Clifford
I've been a bum as well - just realized that I said I would try to install it on a new website to see if there was any cost. I haven't done that. I am working on a new installation at this very moment, so I'll install Gigya to see if it has any cost associated with it. On the websites I am using it on already though, there has never been a cost. I'm using the login function that you seem to want. I know that a lot of their other services have a cost, but my clients have never asked for those services and I doubt they ever will.
Be back shortly...
JDD
P.S. Didn't know you were also writing for wpmu.org - fellow author.
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Hey @Clifford
It did sound like that - didn't it. Didn't intend it that way - glad you didn't take it that way.
Yep, that's me. Now, you're gonna make me look for you. LOL.
I installed the WordPress Plugin, Activated it, signed up for a new account, and then submitted a ticket for clarification. I'll post back as soon as I know for certain.
I may be a newbie but, I disabled the tick box saying anyone can register in the settings area, and let wpmu dev membership plugin take over. And I'm now looking at adding register with facebook or google like wpmu dev does when you sign up here.
So now the only default WP box is sign in. This works because I also have a simple little sync plugin called multisite user management installed.
But using memberships doesn't force me to use wp-login. It works either way.
If I sign in from the memberships link, or the wp-login, it works either way, but perhaps you could piggy back off that.
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Goodday @Clifford and @william_bronson
I had a BFO (Blinding Flash of the Obvious) this morning and revisited a website I built a few years back. When I designed that website, the client wanted the login to appear "in" the pages of the website rather than have a "different" page with a different style. I did a search and found a plugin called Theme My Login and it allows you to place a login box in your sidebar and several other places.
PLUS, if you type in domain.com/wp-login.php or domain.com/wp-admin, you are not take to a back end login page. You get to a login page that has your header, menus, and everything that the other pages on your website have - doesn't even look like WordPress. Plus, couple that with Ozh Simpler Login and you can give people the link domain.com/login as their login point. That really hides the obvious fact that it's WordPress.
Would this be an option that would work for you? Then, couple it with a social login and you just may have your solution.
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Wordpress has a hidden redirect for login.
Check with firebug around your login box on your theme and see if there is a redirect...usually directs back to your home page after login..
or remove login box entirely too I am guessing
So change redirect to your own login page that you set up.
Personally I use s2member http://www.s2member.com/ and have my own login page with site logo and social networking icon logins there along with on theme main page
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Goodday @william_bronson
I apologize for not seeing this earlier - I was working with a client on finalizing a website that will launch later this week.
Anyway, I'm going to be adding this very feature to a website in the next week or so and I'm leaning very heavy to OA Social Login - partly because it's updated to WP 3.4.2 and also because it has many different login methods available on it (Facebook, Google+, Twitter, LinkedIn, and even PayPal - which I didn't know you could use to login to a WordPress website).
From that article, I've used Peter's Login Redirect and Theme My Login - but there appear to be some other good ones there as well.
If it were only Facebook, then of course the WPMUDev plugin - Ultimate Facebook - would serve well. But, for others as well, I think the first one I mentioned would be outstanding.
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I tried a few.
I deleted theme my login.
FLexible frontend login works like a pop up but I couldnt get it to work.
Wordpress social login works great but not on a big page registration. It would have to be a smaller pop up type form, or it puts the icons way over to the side.
I tried another social login plugin but it was really involved and you had to get an account with them. pay pay pay for support etc.
It really makes me mad when you buy a plugin and then you need to pay for everything to use it properly.
So, I still don't have a small pop up registration and login, with social login and signup ability, like WPMU DEV uses.
I'll say it again. If you make plugins, you'd be the greatest company on the planet if you used your own stuff and then provided tutorials about how to make them work the way you use them, in addition to other scenarios.
To have a rockin site, with cool functionality, and you sell software that doesnt do what you do, is........well.........not exactly the way I'd do it. Just my opinion.
I know this is always the recommendation, but did you revert back to Twenty-Ten or Twenty-Eleven temporarily to see if it's a theme issue? I'm a Genesis fanatic and sometimes, I will drop back to one of those to find out if it's a theme related issue or not. Once I identify that it is theme related, I can then search in the help forums for a potential answer OR ask my question there and get support.
Don't get me on my soapbox about training. I gave public workshops for about 12 years or so. I was actually pretty good at it. A lot of what I did was training business owners how to run their businesses more effectively by systematizing things. I watch some of the so called "training videos" that I see online and shudder to think that someone would charge for them.
Rare do I find one that is actually very good. I love doing those, but just can't seem to squeeze together enough time to do any right now. One of these days, I'm going to take a little time to put one together though. Who knows, I may even put a training together on how to properly do training videos
I said don't get me started and there you did.
Let me know the answers to those questions. I'd love to find a solution to this because like I said, I'll be doing this exact thing in a few days. You are correct. When you buy a premium WordPress plugin, you expect it to work without having to buy more stuff or subscribe to something else - unless that is disclosed in the beginning.
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James looks like they are dropping the free version of OA Social Login October 1 and basic plan is $9 /month.
Installed it ,easy to do ,I like it
have to think if I want to get paid version or not.
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WOW!! $9 a month. Is that per website that you use it on or multiple websites?
Kinda surprising. I buy LOTS of WordPress plugins and I'm actually surprised that NO ONE has built one like this. I'm a member of a group call "The Nerd Herd", so I'll post there to see if anyone wants to put something like this together - even if it's a paid version, it shouldn't be $9 a month. Wonder what you're getting for the monthly money?
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Goodday @Clifford
One that I've used in the past - and it seems to offer the widest array of social connections - is Gigya Social Identity Management I used the Social Login WP Plugin. Of course, that page is just the information on it - the WordPress plugin is located at Gigya Socialize for WordPress.
Also, to "hide" the wp-login information, I use Ozh' Simpler Login Plugin so that you can use domain.com/login instead of domain.com/wp-login to have your users login to the website.
Hope that is helpful information to you. If not, post back. I'd have to pull out my virtual notebook though and do some research on other options if there are any. But, basically, I'd think you'd want to use OAuth as that's what most websites seem to be using today.
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Nice suggestions there @JamesDunn!
I've used the Simpler Login Plugin myself. @Clifford does that work for you?
You can also redirect users away from the default login/signup pages to any page on your site through an htaccess rule.
Thanks!
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Goodday @masonjames and @Clifford
I just stumbled upon something interesting - and it looks really new. It's only had 307 downloads and the last mod date was 7-17-2012, but it's good for WP3.4.1.
It's WP FLogin - a plugin that allows you to make a custom login page and avoid using the WP standard one altogether. Or, you can stick the standard login box into your theme anywhere you want it. I think it just might work better than my original suggestion. And, I would test it to see if it worked with Ozh's plugin so you can give out a /login address, too.
If you try it - or my original suggestion - or Mason's suggestion - be sure to post back and tell us what works and what doesn't for your application. Looking forward to your feedback. This plugin just might make my virtual notebook of very interesting plugins. It's already ranking to get there.
James Dunn
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Thanks for the suggestions, guys.
How much is Gigya?
The other 2 plugins are good for changing where the user goes to login, but I didn't see mention/snippet of how to completely disable the wp-login.php. I want to FORCE all logins to be Gigya or Ultimate FB or whatever else I permit. And if I deactivate the Ultimate FB plugin, I guess no one can login, not even me... lol, but that's what I want (or at least want to know how to do). :-)
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Hey @Clifford
I've been using Gigya for 3, maybe 4 years, and I've never paid a dime for it. I don't think I got that special because I was a BETA tester. I think that's just how the deal is when using the WP Plugin. I could be wrong, but as I said, I've never paid a dime.
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Thanks @JamesDunn. I didn't see any free pricing on their website so I sent them a message asking about pricing. Thanks for the info. :-)
So, with or without Gigya, does anyone know of a snippet or something to disable WordPress logins? If not, I may try hacking it myself, but I was curious.
Thanks.
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Good day @Clifford
Did you try the WordPress plugin to see what it said when you install? I'd at least give it a shot. Like I said, I've been using it for several years and have never paid a dime.
I'll see if I can install it on a new website in the next few days and see if I get any payment notices.
Once I do that, I'll report back with my findings.
James Dunn
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@JamesDunn - http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/gigya-socialize-for-wordpress/other_notes/ says "Is the Gigya service free? The Gigya service is free for evaluation purposes." but the screenshot at http://s.wordpress.org/extend/plugins/gigya-socialize-for-wordpress/screenshot-1.jpg?r=600984 shows the "default login or social login" option -- and I'd want JUST the social login option. I think I'll just submit a trac ticket asking for a filter on the wp-login.php so we can replace it or something.
Thanks for your help and sorry I didn't get back to you sooner. :-)
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Hey @Clifford
I've been a bum as well - just realized that I said I would try to install it on a new website to see if there was any cost. I haven't done that. I am working on a new installation at this very moment, so I'll install Gigya to see if it has any cost associated with it. On the websites I am using it on already though, there has never been a cost. I'm using the login function that you seem to want. I know that a lot of their other services have a cost, but my clients have never asked for those services and I doubt they ever will.
Be back shortly...
JDD
P.S. Didn't know you were also writing for wpmu.org - fellow author.
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Did you just call me a bum? lol. np.
Hey, I just found you: http://wpmu.org/author/jamesdunn/
I thought your name looked familiar. :-)
Thanks.
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Hey @Clifford
It did sound like that - didn't it. Didn't intend it that way - glad you didn't take it that way.
Yep, that's me. Now, you're gonna make me look for you. LOL.
I installed the WordPress Plugin, Activated it, signed up for a new account, and then submitted a ticket for clarification. I'll post back as soon as I know for certain.
Talk soon.
JDD
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Hey @Clifford (and all else that are interested).
I just received an email from someone at Gigya stating that the Social Login Plugin is no longer a free service.
O.K. that confirms it. I guess maybe my client's account is Grandfathered in maybe because he's still not being charged a dime for it.
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Thanks for the follow-through. :-)
Still, not a way to fully disable WordPress wp-login.php and force using a service like Gigya, FB, Twitter, G+, etc....
I submitted it on trac somewhere...
Thanks!
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I may be a newbie but, I disabled the tick box saying anyone can register in the settings area, and let wpmu dev membership plugin take over. And I'm now looking at adding register with facebook or google like wpmu dev does when you sign up here.
So now the only default WP box is sign in. This works because I also have a simple little sync plugin called multisite user management installed.
But using memberships doesn't force me to use wp-login. It works either way.
If I sign in from the memberships link, or the wp-login, it works either way, but perhaps you could piggy back off that.
anyway, perhaps something I said could help.
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Goodday @Clifford and @william_bronson
I had a BFO (Blinding Flash of the Obvious) this morning and revisited a website I built a few years back. When I designed that website, the client wanted the login to appear "in" the pages of the website rather than have a "different" page with a different style. I did a search and found a plugin called Theme My Login and it allows you to place a login box in your sidebar and several other places.
PLUS, if you type in domain.com/wp-login.php or domain.com/wp-admin, you are not take to a back end login page. You get to a login page that has your header, menus, and everything that the other pages on your website have - doesn't even look like WordPress. Plus, couple that with Ozh Simpler Login and you can give people the link domain.com/login as their login point. That really hides the obvious fact that it's WordPress.
Would this be an option that would work for you? Then, couple it with a social login and you just may have your solution.
Post back - I'd love to know your feedback.
James Dunn
Athens, GA USA
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@JamesDunn
What do you recommend for adding a register or login with facebook or google like they do here at wpu dev?
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Wordpress has a hidden redirect for login.
Check with firebug around your login box on your theme and see if there is a redirect...usually directs back to your home page after login..
or remove login box entirely too I am guessing
So change redirect to your own login page that you set up.
Personally I use s2member http://www.s2member.com/ and have my own login page with site logo and social networking icon logins there along with on theme main page
I am not sure what you are looking for.
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Goodday @william_bronson
I apologize for not seeing this earlier - I was working with a client on finalizing a website that will launch later this week.
Anyway, I'm going to be adding this very feature to a website in the next week or so and I'm leaning very heavy to OA Social Login - partly because it's updated to WP 3.4.2 and also because it has many different login methods available on it (Facebook, Google+, Twitter, LinkedIn, and even PayPal - which I didn't know you could use to login to a WordPress website).
If that one doesn't look like what you could use, our own Joseph Foley (from wpmu.org) wrote an article entitled 21 WordPress Plugins for Safer, Smoother, and Better User Registration that might provide some help.
From that article, I've used Peter's Login Redirect and Theme My Login - but there appear to be some other good ones there as well.
If it were only Facebook, then of course the WPMUDev plugin - Ultimate Facebook - would serve well. But, for others as well, I think the first one I mentioned would be outstanding.
James Dunn
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@JamesDunn
I tried a few.
I deleted theme my login.
FLexible frontend login works like a pop up but I couldnt get it to work.
Wordpress social login works great but not on a big page registration. It would have to be a smaller pop up type form, or it puts the icons way over to the side.
I tried another social login plugin but it was really involved and you had to get an account with them. pay pay pay for support etc.
It really makes me mad when you buy a plugin and then you need to pay for everything to use it properly.
So, I still don't have a small pop up registration and login, with social login and signup ability, like WPMU DEV uses.
I'll say it again. If you make plugins, you'd be the greatest company on the planet if you used your own stuff and then provided tutorials about how to make them work the way you use them, in addition to other scenarios.
To have a rockin site, with cool functionality, and you sell software that doesnt do what you do, is........well.........not exactly the way I'd do it. Just my opinion.
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Goodday again @william_bronson
Did you try OA Social Login?
Also, what theme are you using?
I know this is always the recommendation, but did you revert back to Twenty-Ten or Twenty-Eleven temporarily to see if it's a theme issue? I'm a Genesis fanatic and sometimes, I will drop back to one of those to find out if it's a theme related issue or not. Once I identify that it is theme related, I can then search in the help forums for a potential answer OR ask my question there and get support.
Don't get me on my soapbox about training. I gave public workshops for about 12 years or so. I was actually pretty good at it. A lot of what I did was training business owners how to run their businesses more effectively by systematizing things. I watch some of the so called "training videos" that I see online and shudder to think that someone would charge for them.
Rare do I find one that is actually very good. I love doing those, but just can't seem to squeeze together enough time to do any right now. One of these days, I'm going to take a little time to put one together though. Who knows, I may even put a training together on how to properly do training videos
I said don't get me started and there you did.
Let me know the answers to those questions. I'd love to find a solution to this because like I said, I'll be doing this exact thing in a few days. You are correct. When you buy a premium WordPress plugin, you expect it to work without having to buy more stuff or subscribe to something else - unless that is disclosed in the beginning.
Take care and we'll talk soon.
James Dunn
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James..thxs for the link..I like the look of OA Social Login gonna try it.
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Goodday @foodfriendfinder
Let me know how it goes - I'm planning to use it next week and any issues you have would help me avoid some hopefully.
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James looks like they are dropping the free version of OA Social Login October 1 and basic plan is $9 /month.
Installed it ,easy to do ,I like it
have to think if I want to get paid version or not.
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Goodday @foodfriendfinder
WOW!! $9 a month. Is that per website that you use it on or multiple websites?
Kinda surprising. I buy LOTS of WordPress plugins and I'm actually surprised that NO ONE has built one like this. I'm a member of a group call "The Nerd Herd", so I'll post there to see if anyone wants to put something like this together - even if it's a paid version, it shouldn't be $9 a month. Wonder what you're getting for the monthly money?
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james the basic plan OA Social Login I presume can have multiple websites but limited in users
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