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Ok, so here's the back story, I have a domain called freebloggersworld, It hit 4,000 blogs, most of which I think are spam blogs, it is currently running version 1.3.3 of wp-mu. I'm going to be upgrading it very shortly. I am also wanting to put up a second site using wp-mu at politicallygrounded.com, and figured I would go ahead and do the multii-db at set up to prevent future shut down. Freebloggers world was closed down at 4000+ blogs by the way do to database indexing using the resources to much, that is a given right? Any how, in order to go multi-db I was thinking 256 databases, I talked to the host and they said they would recommend if I wanted to use the multi-db that it should only be done on a dedicated server not on shared at all.
This creates a problem in that freebloggersworld due to my not keeping up with it is not making a great deal of money, only about 50 cents to a dollar fifty a day through adsense, and of course being new politicallygrounded will take a few months to get off the ground, I am going to be installing supporter on both and attempting income that way too by the way. With this being said, I can't afford a dedicated account right off the bat, so should I start politicallygrounded with a single database and move over later? And since freebloggersworld is so full of bad blogs should I just shut it down and start over with updated version and supporter with all the plugins installed?
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Erstwhile founder (joined May 2007) Likes (0)
Hiya,
Unless your host has a limit on the number of database you can have then you could technically use Multi-DB with 256 databases on your shared hosting account.
My concern really wouldn't be with the databases but rather with the four thousand blogs on a shared account. You're more likely to get kicked due to load from the blogs before you get kicked from having numerous databases.
Have you considered an entry level VPS? I'd recommend Future Hosting.
Thanks,
Andrew
Member (joined May 2008) Likes (0)
Ok, so I'm going to migrate back to my newbie status here as my failing memory isn't let me access the way I need.
The difference between shared and VPS hosting? I am currently hosting at nakedhosting.com and until hitting the 4000 mark didn't have a problem, I figure at 4000 blogs and hundreds of thousands of tables that I would run into that problem any where I go unless it is a dedicated server?
Member (joined May 2008) Likes (0)
Am I thinking wrong here???
I have a database that is causing problems, so I am going to use multi-db in order to decrease the processing requirements needed while indexing the database. This is the purpose of the script correct?
I received this reply from my host while discussing installing multi-db
"Hi Brad,
Since you already have one database that is causing server resource issues with the database thexxxpl_freeblog, going with 256 or even 16 more at this time is not an option at this time. The only reason we re-enabled that database was for you to clean it up, right? That was over two weeks ago and it is still not cleaned up.
Have a GREAT Day!
Todd
Lead Tech"
Now I am thinking what they hell? I was attempting to decrease the problems being caused by the database by using multi-db, the hosting account doesn't allow database creation through php-MyAdmin so that hampers the installation process to begin with, then so I pay them $25 fee to install it for me, what they charge to install third party scripts, and open to paying more if they needed, and I get this in response, I was attempting to install it on another domain and install first to make sure of how it works before doing it on the active site freebloggersworld. To me I thought this was a logical process, perhaps I am wrong?
Erstwhile founder (joined May 2007) Likes (0)
Hiya,
Semi-decent explanation:
https://support.eapps.com/index.php?_m=knowledgebase&_a=viewarticle&kbarticleid=61
You definitely don't have hundreds of thousands of tables with just four thousand blogs. It would be more like thirty two thousand tables.
Also, with just four thousand blogs you definitely can get away with using a decent VPS instead of a dedicated box. Again, I recommend Future Hosting.
That's one of the advantages of using Multi-DB.
Honestly, it sounds like your just getting the shared hosting provider run around.
From the response it looks like they might not even allow you to have additional databases. I'd check on that first thing.
Thanks,
Andrew
Member (joined May 2008) Likes (0)
Ok, I've been looking at futurehosting, I have also looked at hostgator, and I have even contacted Nakedhosting about what they offer for the interim period between shared and dedicated needs.
I have to admit that futurehosting makes me a little nervous as they have no sales support to be able to communicate with except normal business hours and they seem a lot more automated with how they function with customers and account set up. And not entirely sure what hosting package would best fit my needs?
Erstwhile founder (joined May 2007) Likes (0)
Hiya,
Future Hosting was just a suggestion. There are numerous providers out there.
Thanks,
Andrew
Member (joined May 2008) Likes (0)
Thanks!,
Much appreciated...sorry for all the bouncing, I am just perplexed as what to do at the moment, I have not ran a mu site before that caused problems, and I never experienced operational problems at my previous host at hostforweb.com but the customer service was lacking at times so I moved. Wishing I hadn't at the moment I think :-)
(joined July 2007) Likes (0)
I'll chime in with assurances that it does look like your current host is giving you the runaround.
The FutureHosting semi-managed accounts would be very similar to a reseller account at a shared host - you can still get cpanel and it has WHM "above" that.
Yes, support is light, but then again you have the ability to do most things yourself. ;)
I'd clean up the splogs and start with 16 dbs myself.
Member (joined May 2008) Likes (0)
Thanks! I'm in the process of ordering the Elite VPS package from FutureHosting as I type this.
Yeah am definitely running into a not being treated well issue with the current host, and they don't offer VPS packages, just shared and Dedicated, the dedicated starts at $179 and is much more than I need at the moment so going with FutureHosting for the WP-mu installs.
Member (joined May 2008) Likes (0)
Right in the middle of ordering futurehosting seemingly went offline, getting a timeout whenever I try to go to any where on it's site with both my alltel aircard and satellite connection. That an omen? :-) Waiting to see what happens. I like their prices for VPS
Erstwhile founder (joined May 2007) Likes (0)
Hiya,
I can access Future Hosting just fine.
Thanks,
Andrew
Keeper of the Dark Chocolate (joined July 2007) Likes (0)
Ditto but I haven't gone into the order form.
I don't know if you've seen any of the coupon offers floating around for them:
http://www.thewebhostinghero.com/couponscodes/futurehosting-coupon-30off.html
For reference and butt covering, that's not my site or any of my own clients. Just a quick google.
Member (joined May 2008) Likes (0)
Thanks for the link!! Still not able to get there though, on either Internet connection/computer. Have tried clearing cache and different browsers as well. I can get everywhere else on the net no problem.
I sometimes can get to the front page, sometimes get a little deeper but then times out, at the moment can't get there at all :-(
(joined July 2007) Likes (0)
Weird. You accessing the .biz or the .com? The .biz might work better.
Also check out their specials page.
Member (joined May 2008) Likes (0)
I've tried both .biz and .com currently on hughesnet(my satellite connection) I get Failure to Connect to web server, and on alltel my aircard on my laptop I get timed out. Can't get any where on their domain at all.
But like I said I can get to every other web site I go to, even had RushLimbaugh streaming through alltel with no problem, turned it off a few ago in order to try to get to futurehosting and see if there was a bandwidth issue or what....maybe there's a hop problem from my location, I'm in southern Georgia, USA
Member (joined May 2008) Likes (0)
Ok, doing a tracert on http://www.futurehosting.com I get 6 hops successful on Hughesnet and at hop 7 bur-edge-02.inet.quest.net[72.166.140
109] reports: Destination host unreachable
On the alltell I get 7 successful hops and at hop so-8-1.car2.Charlotte1.Level13.net it times out all other hops 8-30
Erstwhile founder (joined May 2007) Likes (0)
Not sure what's up. I'm in southern Alabama and neither my Alltel card, my CenturyTel DSL line, nor the building T1 connection are having issues reaching futurhosting.com.
Thanks,
Andrew
Member (joined May 2008) Likes (0)
I was able to get to their main page once on the satellite and got to the online chat that is done through a different server, Talked to them and they asked I email the results of the tracert's to them, so I have, hope the email can get to them.
Member (joined May 2008) Likes (0)
I wasn't the only one, and it's being worked on, it's outside of their immediate network though.
"I spoke with Arun who you were chatting with earlier on the live chat. We have seen a number of reports about this today - and all indications point to an issue with Level 3; however; outside of our network. I notified our network engineers who have also confirmed Level 3 within it's network and our engineers are currently in the process of contacting them to see if they have a resolution for the issue within their network. I'll send you an e-mail after they have responded."
So hopefully I will get to complete things soon...
Keeper of the Dark Chocolate (joined July 2007) Likes (0)
Something's strange as you copied Level13.net instead of level3.net. I don't know if that's a typo on your part or if their routing is messed up but level13.net is a domain squatter.
Probably a typo but I wanted to point it out.
Member (joined May 2008) Likes (0)
Yeah was a typo on my part. Thanks :-)
The problem was worked out a little while ago and I signed up for the Titanium Managed VPS package, the futurehero code didn't work so I had to use this weeks coupon code which gave ne 10% off for life, not to bad I suppose.
Just waiting for it to get set up now.
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