The plugin works pretty well but I've heavily modified it to work and look the way I want it to.
I think that a "most active blogs" would be a very cool premium plugin. Yes, it already exists but the existing plugin is outdated and just not made as well design wise/easy to use as i.e. the global latest posts here.
Maybe it could be integrated into the blogs plugin.
The plugin works pretty well but I've heavily modified it to work and look the way I want it to.
I think that a "most active blogs" would be a very cool premium plugin. Yes, it already exists but the existing plugin is outdated and just not made as well design wise/easy to use as i.e. the global latest posts here.
Maybe it could be integrated into the blogs plugin.
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Depends on how you define "most active". Some of our clients look at the total number of page views. Others look at average pages viewed per person. Other look at comment count or even a comment average per post. Also you can look at trackbacks as that would be who's talking about the blog.
And then one person when to town and did this confusing weighed average based on all that plus threw in the number of spam comments and trackbacks they receive into the mix.
No. On one of my WPMU sites I run the most active blogs plugin and a "most popular blogs" plugin and use output from them on the front page.
But no, no global stats plugin even though I have in the past. But even if I had, I think the suggested plugin would be attractive to other users as well :).
I would like to have this as well. I just posted a similar thread before I saw this one about having a Feaured Blogs and/or Popular Blogs. Slightly different than this one. It would be nice to maybe have options built into the plugin so it could work as either a featured/popular/most active, etc.
By widget do you mean with the sidebar? I am looking to add it to the main page. Sorry if I am missing something here, I dont really have any coding/programming skills so a lot of this stuff goes over my head.
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Hiya,
The feature we're coding will provide widgets for use on the main blog. A lot (well, most) of our members seem to have a hard time with working with the plugins that provide a function you can use on a page. So most of our future features will consist of widgets (in the initial versions at least). PHP savvy members can take the code out of the widget and make a function without too much hassle.
"The plugin we're developing will be a 'most active/popular' type plugin"
Any idea when this plugin may be available Andrew? Im trying to decide if I should have a plugin modified to suit my needs in the meantime until this plugin is finished.
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10th December 2009 (2 years ago)
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Most Popular Blogs Plugin, I am typo king... But ...
As a suggestion maybe on the dashboard a list of most popular plugins and themes (then, say a star if they are supporter only) on the dashboard would be a cool way of getting bloggers to upgrade no?
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Hiya,
As a suggestion maybe on the dashboard a list of most popular plugins and themes (then, say a star if they are supporter only) on the dashboard would be a cool way of getting bloggers to upgrade no?
You could use the custom content dashboard widget plugin to manually list plugins and themes.
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Well the weighted approach is always hard to quantify.
She threw in the amount of spam comments and trackbacks a blog received, google page rank, percentage of folks coming from search engines, and some other numbers that currently escape me for the moment. She went nuts.
Partly because she hosts a few c-level webcomics. Those throw off the page view numbers as for a comic that's been around for a few years, just one visitor running through the archives is hundreds of page views and a huge bump up usually for the average pages view count.
Another issue is how much of a weight can or should be applied. For example, while she valued inbounds from search engines, I;ve got to admit that I would think a higher percentage of those would be a downcheck as those aren't regular readers.
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Why would she want spam comments and track backs?
Real track backs would be good.
Google PR isn't really needed in an internal most popular plugin (thats just over doing it).
The other analytics she's asking for is just that -- she's confusing plugin use with analytics research.
I agree I'd be more interested in repeat visitors the none off's -- which can be easily said as # of BP members visits versus guest. It's not perfect but it's not a revenue generating plugin and all you need is an idea of popularity.
I do SEO consulting once and a while and I get clients who are like that all the time. They want every piece of info for no real reason. That and I have to constantly tell them "Link farms bad, content good" LOL
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Why would she want spam comments and track backs?
Because they determine how well know a blog is. I have a feeling that a site like boingboing (or whatever it's called) gets a huge multitude of spam over what a "Lookie I made a blog! I Like Club Penguin! KEWL!" blog.
Real trackbacks wouldn't work. Many sites turn them off, wordpress is notorious for not being able to send or receive them correctly, not all blog admins pay attention to their spam queue or mark incorrectly passed spam trackbacks and comments as spam and some other issues that I would rather not get into since we're here on the public side.
And for the rest, I assure you those are in there for a good reason.
I do SEO consulting once
We're not talking about SEO, we're talking about stats and numbers. Completely different than SEO.
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Note there's been a most active blogs function in core for a long time now: get_most_active_blogs( $num = 10, $display = true )
There is also: get_last_updated( $deprecated = '', $start = 0, $quantity = 40 )
and get_blog_list( $start = 0, $num = 10, $deprecated = '' )
Of course our plugin will be a bit simpler and feature-full!
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A lot of people want it tied to post/page visitor stats, but that is resource intensive (2 extra queries) per page view, and not usually compatible with caching solutions like Super Cache.
Our post indexer plugin has a stats feature we might build off off, but it is disabled by default because of resources.
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Keeper of the Dark Chocolate — 9th October 2009 (2 years ago) #
Depends on how you define "most active". Some of our clients look at the total number of page views. Others look at average pages viewed per person. Other look at comment count or even a comment average per post. Also you can look at trackbacks as that would be who's talking about the blog.
And then one person when to town and did this confusing weighed average based on all that plus threw in the number of spam comments and trackbacks they receive into the mix.
Member — 9th October 2009 (2 years ago) #
The old plugin just shows the ones with the most posts and that's what I was thinking but that's up to the plugin author I guess.
Erstwhile founder — 9th October 2009 (2 years ago) #
What about a 'Most Active Blogs' widget?
Thanks,
Andrew
Member — 9th October 2009 (2 years ago) #
Yes that would be what I'd like to use personally, to be featured on the front page.
Keeper of the Dark Chocolate — 9th October 2009 (2 years ago) #
Are you using any sort of stat plugin currently?
Member — 9th October 2009 (2 years ago) #
No. On one of my WPMU sites I run the most active blogs plugin and a "most popular blogs" plugin and use output from them on the front page.
But no, no global stats plugin even though I have in the past. But even if I had, I think the suggested plugin would be attractive to other users as well :).
Erstwhile founder — 9th October 2009 (2 years ago) #
We may have something in the works for this. Keep an eye on the forums here and wpmu.org.
Thanks,
Andrew
Member — 9th October 2009 (2 years ago) #
Ok that sounds good.
For the record, this was more of a suggestion than an actual request. Don't know why I wrote that...
Member — 11th October 2009 (2 years ago) #
I would like to have this as well. I just posted a similar thread before I saw this one about having a Feaured Blogs and/or Popular Blogs. Slightly different than this one. It would be nice to maybe have options built into the plugin so it could work as either a featured/popular/most active, etc.
Erstwhile founder — 11th October 2009 (2 years ago) #
Hiya,
The plugin we're developing will be a 'most active/popular' type plugin. You can easily create a featured blog section by using a text widget.
Thanks,
Andrew
Member — 11th October 2009 (2 years ago) #
By widget do you mean with the sidebar? I am looking to add it to the main page. Sorry if I am missing something here, I dont really have any coding/programming skills so a lot of this stuff goes over my head.
Erstwhile founder — 11th October 2009 (2 years ago) #
Hiya,
The feature we're coding will provide widgets for use on the main blog. A lot (well, most) of our members seem to have a hard time with working with the plugins that provide a function you can use on a page. So most of our future features will consist of widgets (in the initial versions at least). PHP savvy members can take the code out of the widget and make a function without too much hassle.
Thanks,
Andrew
Member — 17th October 2009 (2 years ago) #
"The plugin we're developing will be a 'most active/popular' type plugin"
Any idea when this plugin may be available Andrew? Im trying to decide if I should have a plugin modified to suit my needs in the meantime until this plugin is finished.
Thanks!
Erstwhile founder — 18th October 2009 (2 years ago) #
Hiya,
I'm afraid we don't provide ETAs ;)
We're always working on a ton of stuff at the same time so a plugin can easily get bumped up or down the priority list.
Thanks,
Andrew
Volunteer support dude — 10th December 2009 (2 years ago) #
I'd be interested in a Most Popular Plugin Widget that can pull the ten most popular.
Also I like what Dr Mike said in first thread that one that uses weighted avgs to takk all f it into account.
Erstwhile founder — 10th December 2009 (2 years ago) #
Most popular plugin widget? Are you wanting a list of popular plugins?
Thanks,
Andrew
Volunteer support dude — 10th December 2009 (2 years ago) #
Most Popular Blogs Plugin, I am typo king... But ...
As a suggestion maybe on the dashboard a list of most popular plugins and themes (then, say a star if they are supporter only) on the dashboard would be a cool way of getting bloggers to upgrade no?
Erstwhile founder — 10th December 2009 (2 years ago) #
Hiya,
You could use the custom content dashboard widget plugin to manually list plugins and themes.
Thanks,
Andrew
Keeper of the Dark Chocolate — 10th December 2009 (2 years ago) #
Phd in math. Even I didn't get the equation client used.
Volunteer support dude — 11th December 2009 (2 years ago) #
Well the weighted approach is always hard to quantify.
I would do a simple abstraction - something like:
# AVG Blogs Comments per post/page Divided by Total Blog # Comments
PLUS
# Total Blogs Comments Divided by Total Site # Comments
PLUS
# Blogs Avg Daily Hit Rate Divided by Entire Site Hit Rate
Divided by 3
Closest to the number 1 is highest.
Keeper of the Dark Chocolate — 11th December 2009 (2 years ago) #
She threw in the amount of spam comments and trackbacks a blog received, google page rank, percentage of folks coming from search engines, and some other numbers that currently escape me for the moment. She went nuts.
Partly because she hosts a few c-level webcomics. Those throw off the page view numbers as for a comic that's been around for a few years, just one visitor running through the archives is hundreds of page views and a huge bump up usually for the average pages view count.
Another issue is how much of a weight can or should be applied. For example, while she valued inbounds from search engines, I;ve got to admit that I would think a higher percentage of those would be a downcheck as those aren't regular readers.
Volunteer support dude — 11th December 2009 (2 years ago) #
Why would she want spam comments and track backs?
Real track backs would be good.
Google PR isn't really needed in an internal most popular plugin (thats just over doing it).
The other analytics she's asking for is just that -- she's confusing plugin use with analytics research.
I agree I'd be more interested in repeat visitors the none off's -- which can be easily said as # of BP members visits versus guest. It's not perfect but it's not a revenue generating plugin and all you need is an idea of popularity.
I do SEO consulting once and a while and I get clients who are like that all the time. They want every piece of info for no real reason. That and I have to constantly tell them "Link farms bad, content good" LOL
Keeper of the Dark Chocolate — 11th December 2009 (2 years ago) #
Because they determine how well know a blog is. I have a feeling that a site like boingboing (or whatever it's called) gets a huge multitude of spam over what a "Lookie I made a blog! I Like Club Penguin! KEWL!" blog.
Real trackbacks wouldn't work. Many sites turn them off, wordpress is notorious for not being able to send or receive them correctly, not all blog admins pay attention to their spam queue or mark incorrectly passed spam trackbacks and comments as spam and some other issues that I would rather not get into since we're here on the public side.
And for the rest, I assure you those are in there for a good reason.
We're not talking about SEO, we're talking about stats and numbers. Completely different than SEO.
Volunteer support dude — 11th December 2009 (2 years ago) #
I digressed on that last part as as to elude to asking for info they don't need.
Maybe we can open a best practice thread in private side to touch upon what the best practices are and known pitfalls, etc
Member — 23rd January 2010 (2 years ago) #
Just curious is the Most Active/Popular Blogs widget was still in the works? Would LOVE to have this for my site!
Erstwhile founder — 23rd January 2010 (2 years ago) #
Yep, this plugin will definitely be created.
Thanks,
Andrew
Member — 24th January 2010 (2 years ago) #
Awesome! Can't wait for this one Andrew.
Lead Developer — 25th January 2010 (2 years ago) #
Note there's been a most active blogs function in core for a long time now:
get_most_active_blogs( $num = 10, $display = true )There is also:
get_last_updated( $deprecated = '', $start = 0, $quantity = 40 )and
get_blog_list( $start = 0, $num = 10, $deprecated = '' )Of course our plugin will be a bit simpler and feature-full!
Keeper of the Dark Chocolate — 25th January 2010 (2 years ago) #
The first function I believe calls the blogs with the most posts though. All of our hosted webcomics would be at the top of that list.
Hmm, may do them some good.
Lead Developer — 25th January 2010 (2 years ago) #
A lot of people want it tied to post/page visitor stats, but that is resource intensive (2 extra queries) per page view, and not usually compatible with caching solutions like Super Cache.
Our post indexer plugin has a stats feature we might build off off, but it is disabled by default because of resources.
Keeper of the Dark Chocolate — 26th January 2010 (2 years ago) #
Could do what we do and just dump the data once an hour into a new table, doing the math that you needed as you went.
Member — 27th June 2011 (11 months ago) #
Did anything like this ever get developed?
Member — 16th July 2011 (10 months ago) #
^ No I don't think so.
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