[supporter and other payement plugins] Tax & geo management
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[supporter and other payement plugins] Tax & geo management
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8th July 2010 (1 year ago)
hi there !
Finished my 2nd network, added supporter, and then.... big problem !!!!
The Tax management, which does not apply in case of international payment !
But this is not "optionized" in the supporter settings !!! And this is a problem since I will have international payments (hope so !) and problem with tax management !
well, to be added with currency management looool ;)
Finished my 2nd network, added supporter, and then.... big problem !!!!
The Tax management, which does not apply in case of international payment !
But this is not "optionized" in the supporter settings !!! And this is a problem since I will have international payments (hope so !) and problem with tax management !
well, to be added with currency management looool ;)
I've seen a few sites that add on different tax amounts depending on where they perceive I am signing up from. I generally never sign up to them. I do like a site that charges a flat rate regardless :) But that may just be me.
I have to pay IVA for each invoice payed here. But not if the customer is outside ! Since my custumers are strictly professionnals i have to manage the IVA problem :) So why a professionnal outside her would pay the same amount since the invoice will not mention the IVA !!!!!
Problem is for a subscription site how do you meet the legal burden or records to prove where they are from? You don't collect shipping info. Don't even know how one could modify the plugin for that.
Best to set the price according to where the majority of users will be from, and do any required tax stuff on the backend.
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9th July 2010 (1 year ago)
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Gotta admit I've never seen a site that charges a flat tax rate. Shipping maybe but not taxes.
I know here in the States, you're not allowed to charge tax when placing a cross state order unless of course you;re in the same state where the business as a physical location. Unless of course you live in a state where they ignore the Constitution like Gov. Predue did.
Having said that though, we don't have any taxes here on anything that's digital only. Just physical items.
Same in france... all is taxed, and if it is not mentioned, I will pay them anyway :)
So prices now include taxes. problem solved using web invoice since anyway it is not possible to use paypal here (reason for my waiting to other gateway, specially moneybookers...) nor credit card on internet. third world here.... ;)
Will find how to add the "pay by check" button but will loose that on updates i thinl so waiting a little :)
Programming for international tax law is a pain. I spent a LONG time researching tax rules for MarketPress to try to design a system flexible enough to work in most countries.
Do you tax shipping fees? Do you tax different depending on the state/province? Do you tax out or country? Or maybe just only in EU? It was a nightmare.
Ended up with built in support for USA, Canada, Australia, UK, EU, with others having to set prefs themselves.
Responses (12)
Lead Developer — 8th July 2010 (1 year ago) #
I'm not sure exactly what you mean, but tax management is not included. Just set your prices to be inclusive of any tax.
Lifetime member! — 8th July 2010 (1 year ago) #
the problem is simple :
If I charge someone here, it is IVA included, 20% !!!
But if it is someone out of country, no IVA !
Developer — 8th July 2010 (1 year ago) #
I've seen a few sites that add on different tax amounts depending on where they perceive I am signing up from. I generally never sign up to them. I do like a site that charges a flat rate regardless :) But that may just be me.
Lifetime member! — 8th July 2010 (1 year ago) #
well, this is a legal problem !!!
I have to pay IVA for each invoice payed here. But not if the customer is outside ! Since my custumers are strictly professionnals i have to manage the IVA problem :) So why a professionnal outside her would pay the same amount since the invoice will not mention the IVA !!!!!
Erstwhile founder — 8th July 2010 (1 year ago) #
I have to admit that I prefer sites that charge a flat rate as well.
Thanks,
Andrew
Lead Developer — 9th July 2010 (1 year ago) #
Problem is for a subscription site how do you meet the legal burden or records to prove where they are from? You don't collect shipping info. Don't even know how one could modify the plugin for that.
Best to set the price according to where the majority of users will be from, and do any required tax stuff on the backend.
Lifetime member! — 9th July 2010 (1 year ago) #
ok, well it's what I have done :)
But I do collect shipping infos, since it is a professionnal billing so i use web invoice to bill them.
Here we have to sign all invoice also !
Member — 9th July 2010 (1 year ago) #
You might want to try this free plugin:
http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/web-invoice/
It might give you more flexibility for individual charges and invoicing.
Lifetime member! — 9th July 2010 (1 year ago) #
lol
This is the one I use, and even share translation ;)
Keeper of the Dark Chocolate — 9th July 2010 (1 year ago) #
Gotta admit I've never seen a site that charges a flat tax rate. Shipping maybe but not taxes.
I know here in the States, you're not allowed to charge tax when placing a cross state order unless of course you;re in the same state where the business as a physical location. Unless of course you live in a state where they ignore the Constitution like Gov. Predue did.
Having said that though, we don't have any taxes here on anything that's digital only. Just physical items.
Lifetime member! — 9th July 2010 (1 year ago) #
But we are not in the states here loool
Same in france... all is taxed, and if it is not mentioned, I will pay them anyway :)
So prices now include taxes. problem solved using web invoice since anyway it is not possible to use paypal here (reason for my waiting to other gateway, specially moneybookers...) nor credit card on internet. third world here.... ;)
Will find how to add the "pay by check" button but will loose that on updates i thinl so waiting a little :)
Lead Developer — 9th July 2010 (1 year ago) #
Programming for international tax law is a pain. I spent a LONG time researching tax rules for MarketPress to try to design a system flexible enough to work in most countries.
Do you tax shipping fees? Do you tax different depending on the state/province? Do you tax out or country? Or maybe just only in EU? It was a nightmare.
Ended up with built in support for USA, Canada, Australia, UK, EU, with others having to set prefs themselves.
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